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Episode Summary –  Buying a business-valuation and choosing the best deal structure

Business valuation and choosing the best deal structure can be complex and daunting when you are new to buying a business.

Brendan Barrow interviews Pete Seligman as part of our sub-series on Buying A Business. Pete explains the basics business valuation and choosing the best deal structure. 

We discuss the concept of earnings and multiples to value a Small to Medium Business along with 3 deal structures based on earnouts, options and royalties.

Links and resources

Podcast Episode 13 – Reasons to buy a business in 2020 not start one

Podcast Episode 2  – You-360 What do I really want?

Podcast Episode 3 – Understanding Your Motivation to own a business

Alpin – website

Pete Seligman- LinkedIn Profile

Episode 25: Buying a business-valuation and choosing the best deal structure

How do you value a business and which type of deal structure is best? We introduce these subjects so that you are more knowledgeable about the concepts and the range of possible deal structures that are available. 

Episode Related Resource Stack

Podcast Episode 13 – Reasons to buy a business in 2020 not start one

Podcast Episode 16 -Buying a business-where to begin

Podcast Episode 20- Buying a business-how to find and choose the right one

Podcast Episode – How to choose a business partner

Pete Seligman – LinkedIn Profile

Pete Seligman – Alpin

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Welcome to this Episode 25 of the Should I Own A Business podcast. I am your host, Brendan Barrow and today I talk with Pete Seligman as part of our sub-series on Buying A Business. Pete explains more about business valuation and 3 common deal structures you might consider. 

In Episode 20 we talked about the 555 system for choosing the right business to buy along with the concept of due diligence.

Assuming that you have selected a business to buy and you have carried out sufficient due diligence, the next stage would be to agree on a price and terms to purchase the business.

How do you close a deal?

In smaller businesses closing the deal can be influenced by the emotions of the buyer and seller.

The sellers may be individuals or a couple of individuals that may have owned the business for a long time and have invested blood sweat and tears along the way. This means they are likely to have an emotional attachment to their business.

Hopefully, through the due diligence process, you have formed a good relationship with the seller, and the trick now is to negotiate a deal.

Writing down what you have agreed so far needs to be done but this can cause some revaluation and so its not always smooth sailing to closing the deal.

It is a vital process in formalising your negotiation and agreement.

How do you value a business?

Establishing a business value can be complex, and there are specialist business valuers that can help you if you lack the experience or knowledge to do this.

We highly recommend getting professional help to establish the business valuation so that you can negotiate with the vendor and fully appreciate what you are buying.

The type of industry, the stage in the business life cycle, the type of contracts are some things that can influence a business valuation.

One of the most common approaches to value a business is the earnings and a multiple of those earning.

Several factors influence the profit and multiple chosen.

In essence, you establish the “normal” earnings of the business and apply a multiple of that profit to establish a value.

For example, a “normal” profit of $1million with a multiple of 4 would give a valuation of $4million.

There is more than one way of calculating profit or earnings.

Which profitability figure do you use to value a business?

Using the financial accounts of the business, you can work out the “normal” business profitability. We may use a profit measurement called EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest Tax Depreciation and Amortisation).

Adjustments can take account of abnormal circumstances (good or bad) as the goal is to calculate the “normal” profitability that the business can achieve.

What is a “multiple” when you are valuing a business?

A multiple is a factor that multiplies the profit to establish a business valuation.

The multiple is derived based upon several factors, including the industry and the risk of not achieving the ordinary profit.

The lower the risk to earnings, over time, the higher the multiple.

For example, if the company has a long-established, high-quality customer base, the likelihood of continued earnings is good, and the multiple would be higher. A business with a volatile customer base that is subject to constant price pressures might attract a lower multiple.

Are assets valued in addition to the multiple of profit when buying a business?

For a business to achieve it’s “normal profitability”, it also has a “normal amount of assets” to do that.

That could include buildings, machinery, stock, vehicles, etc., that might sit on the “balance sheet” of the business.

We suggest that these are not paid for separately as, without them, the profitability could not be achieved.

In essence, the multiple of profit approach covers the purchase of these assets.

Some vendors are misinformed and expect to get a value-based upon a multiple and then assets on top.

How do you take account of working capital in the final settlement?

Working capital needs careful consideration and a clear mechanism of how it will be treated agreed between the business buyer and seller.

Working capital movements can be a significant proportion of the purchase price, and the value of working capital can fluctuate.

For example, a business with a value of $1 million might have working capital movement of plus or minus $250,000.

For example, a “locked-box” mechanism or a working capital adjustment on the completion date could be good options.

Again we suggest that you get advice on this subject as the financial impact can be very significant.

Why is a fair business valuation so important?

You don’t want to overpay for a business but, equally, you don’t want to miss out on buying a great business because you undervalue its potential.

Establishing a fair value enables both the seller and buyer to benefit.

What are three common deal structures for buying a business?

1 What is an “earnout” when buying a business?

Earnouts are very common, and they are a risk management tool that avoids the need to spend a long time trying to precisely forecast what might happen in the future.

In any negotiation, there is often a gap between what the buyer and seller want

The earnout is a mechanism to allows the seller to prove its worth by the business earning a proportion of the final settlement price.

A headline price will be agreed, but only a portion of that would be paid at settlement. Over a defined period, the balance can be paid if the agreed performance criteria are met.

Earnouts offer the seller the opportunity to contribute and achieve a higher business value.

Earnouts also allow the buyer to reduce their risk of over-paying for a business.

If appropriately structured, earnouts are a useful risk management tool for both the buyer and seller. 

2 What does an “option” mean when buying a business?

For example, a percentage of shareholding may be bought at an agreed price, with the option to buy the remainder at a higher valuation.

An “option” allows the vendor to exit in the future for a known amount while attracting a buyer now, at a good value. The new owner has the option to take full control at a pre-agreed value when the conditions of the option are met.

3 What are royalties when buying a business?

Royalties work well when a business has significant intellectual property rights that could be exploited by a new owner, but the earnings of the existing business don’t warrant a good sales price.

Royalties allow you to disconnect the value of the existing business valuation from the potential earning of the “new” business.

The existing business can be bought for a price that reflects its earnings, and additionally, royalties could continue to be paid.

Royalties, for example, could be paid on product sales over the long term (5-10 years) period, so the seller benefits over a longer-term.

How do you choose the right deal structure for buying a business?

Consider the underlying business and the objectives of the owner and buyer, along with the business risks or potential. 

Then consider the various deal structuring tools that you could use to construct a package to reflect the objectives of both the buyer and seller.

What are the timescales in buying a business?

You can expect negotiating to take 2-6 months.

The overall duration of the deals could span several years.

Each deal is unique.

What are the things you need to prepare for on Day One of owning a new business?

In our next interview, we will discuss new ownership and Day One. 


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